Forum:Pre-EoC images in articles

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Recently I attempted to add some images of Nex and the Ancient Prison c. 2011/12 onto their respective articles; these images were deleted. I'd like to get others' opinions on this.

General consensus is "Gallery (historical)" is used for pre-backup models (e.g. The Kendal) and graphical changes within OSRS' history (e.g. Maple logs). I'd like to propose allowing Pre-EoC images to be uploaded to articles that port content from RS3. Nex as she appeared in 2011 looks nothing like modern RS3 Nex, and the images are useful for context (as I'd argue pre-EoC images of Soul Wars and Shooting Stars would be as well).

I've already sort of bent the rules by putting post-backup images in Land of the Goblins and Hopespear's Will and nobody seems to mind, so why not the rest of pre-EoC as well?

Discussion

Should we allow images of RuneScape c. 2008-12 onto articles about ported content? SacKings (talk) 00:48, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Comment - I think images like that are fine if they're useful in documenting differences between 2008-2012 content and osrs content, but not for documenting the 2008-2012 content itself if that makes sense. Which I think means I support this but I'm tired so I may be misinterpreting, wowee zTUG5mD.png Crow  02:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Oh, also important for me is that we do not make conclusions about future to-be-ported content based on the 2008-2012 content. For example: Nex strategies. zTUG5mD.png Crow  02:06, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Question - Do you have a link to the image(s) you were going to use? You can use Imgur or something to host and post the link(s) here. --Legaia 2 Pla · ʟ · 20:18, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Nex, 2011: https://runescape.wiki/images/archive/20110112102252%21Nex.png?8548f
Ancient Prison, 2012: https://runescape.wiki/images/archive/20120905210805%21Nex%27s_chamber.png?c23d6 SacKings (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - Context isn’t enough of a reason to have content from a different game recorded here. Interwiki linking does the job for those who want to see what the RS3 version looks like. At best I’d have a trivia point that mentions it’s based off RS3 content with a link but even then, the little wiki icon at the top of the article is enough imo. Elaine (talk) 09:50, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - I think only up to the 2007 OSRS backup images should be used before EoC. Given the game graphics were changed significantly between 2007-2012, it just looks off having them in articles really, with our image policy in mind saying to use vanilla client. Ozank (talk) 11:26, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Oppose - I think the job for this is in RSW's hands per Elaine. I don't really see the difference between pre-eoc and post-eoc images (at the moment) in terms of including them on the pages. Fjaratalk 00:14, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Mostly Oppose - I could understand making an exception for the quest scroll in Land of the Goblins, since like Crow I see value in documenting differences in how late 2007-2012 content was released between the main game and Old-School. Other than that, using screenshots or models from the main game, even if they are pre-RSHD, doesn't seem appropriate. I don't see any need for the Grubfoot's dream screenshot from the main game, and the image in Hopespear's Will should really be replaced with one taken in Old-School on release, even if they end up looking identical. Beagall (talk) 04:13, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Oppose — I don't believe Pre-EOC (beyond the OSRS snapshot) is relevant to OSRS in any meaningful way. It wouldn't be much different than including RS3 content on this wiki for the sake of making comparisons between releases. If it was part of the game as of 10 August 2007, it is fully relevant. Beyond that, they should remain separate. User:Ozank and User:Elaine have made good points that I need not repeat. Owl (1).pngOwl (t | c) • 05:53, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Closed - Currently there is not consensus to permit Pre-EoC images in mainspace articles. Linking to the RuneScape Wiki is best for directing people to draw their own comparisons. --Legaia 2 Pla · ʟ · 20:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)