Giants' Foundry/Strategies

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This guide provides detailed information as to recommended equipment and alloys, the acquirement of materials and workings of refinement of a preform in the Giants' Foundry.

Recommended equipment[edit | edit source]

The Smiths' Uniform, a set obtainable in this minigame, will provide a chance of bonus progress upon each machine tick, with guaranteed bonus on a full set, making for noticeably increased earning rates by about 15%. The Smiths gloves can be combined with ice gloves, making retrieving the preform seamless.

Kovac restores 50% run energy after handing in a blade. Without the graceful outfit, it is very unlikely that the player will deplete their energy, so it is neither required, nor recommended. The hood and cape (or other weight-reducing items) can be used to compensate for the minute weight of the preform and the Smiths' Uniform, but the benefit is not tangible; the slots may be simply left empty.

Graceful hood.png
Graceful cape.png
Preform.png
Smiths tunic.png
Smiths trousers.png
Smiths gloves (i).png
Smiths boots.png

Earning Rates[edit | edit source]

This table shows the earning rates of experience and gold for the best alloys at a given Smithing level, with the average scoring of commissions, all optimal moulds being available, optimal player performance, but without the Smiths' Uniform. It should be noted that both the performance and the commissions issued will vary, and so these rates may also slightly vary hour-to-hour, albeit within 10% of deviation. Similarly, changes in Grand Exchange market prices will also result in changes in expenses and thus profits.

Unless stated otherwise, the alloys are in a 1:1 ratio. Claws are not considered as smelting material due to high difficulty in obtaining a sufficient amount.

Alloy Level Cost in bars
per hour
Cost in items
per hour[n 1]
Smithing XP
per hour
Foundry rep.
per hour
Avg. Revenue
per hour
Using bars Using items
Profit/h GP/XP Profit/h GP/XP
Bronze-Iron[n 2] Smithing 15 101,024 12,240 97,920 1,264 195,840 94,816 0.97 183,600 1.88
Iron-Steel Smithing 30 168,448 30,912 133,920 1,568 267,840 99,392 0.74 236,928 1.77
Steel-Mithril Smithing 50 254,996 120,540 164,640 1,722 329,280 74,284 0.45 208,740 1.27
Mithril-Adamant Smithing 70 468,384 312,648 198,000 1,836 396,000 −72,384 0.37 83,352 0.42
Adamant-Rune Smithing 85 2,238,390 1,690,920 253,110 2,068 506,220 −1,732,170 −6.84 −1,184,700 −4.68
  1. ^ Based on best price-per-bar items of either metal, other than claws.
  2. ^ Using a 9/19 alloy. 14/14 is nearly identical in quality.

Refinement mechanics[edit | edit source]

Tool characteristics[edit | edit source]

The waterfall and lava pool both offer two different rates of temperature change, the faster one being accessible via right-click. In addition, the longer the time the character is spending there, the faster the rate becomes, easily jumping 10% of the entire temperature bar in one tick if left unattended.

The Trip hammer is significantly slower than the other machines, but progresses in larger chunks. Some attention should be given to the progress bar, and occurences where the temperature drops out of range in between strikes is also more likely.

The polishing wheel cools down the sword the fastest of all machines by a considerable margin and care should be taken to not have one's attention wander while operating it. To complete a polishing section without re-heating the blade without a sweet spot bonus is extremely unlikely.

The grinder is the only tool to heat the sword up instead of cooling it, and it does so relatively quickly, where finishing a grinding section without a sweet spot is only feasible in higher-difficulty swords. Less practiced players may cause damage to the sword by placing the temperature on the high end of range by mistake.

The preform storage functions quite simply, but it may be beneficial to point out that if the player leaves the Foundry, for example by the main entrance, the preform will be unequipped and placed in storage on its own. The storage stand is the only intended way to unequip the preform.

The Refinement HUD features a thin white border that appears around the temperature range and progress section where the sword is situated. It is very helpful when edging a temperature range to affirm the player may work the preform, or to resolve edge cases where the progress arrow is stuck between two sections.

Temperature management[edit | edit source]

It is scarcely useful to attempt to set the temperature of the sword to the very edge of acceptable range, be it during heating, cooling, or working the sword. However, more practiced players may find the small margin it provides comforting due to a variety of reasons described both above and below. If the player desires tighter temperature control, the following tips may help.

The temperature adjustment acceleration over time is desirable when transitioning between extremes (fresh out of polish to hammering and vice versa), but it makes stopping at a precise temperature complicated. There are two ways to navigate this: The player can be ready to left-click the tool at the right time, immediately transitioning from fast adjustmest to slow adjustment and spending a few ticks refining the last bit of travel. More practiced players can do the same, but right-clicking the tool and waiting to click the fast adjustment option again. This resets the rate back to the base one, and if the player has a good eye for the temperature meter, may be able to only spend one or two ticks fine-tuning the transition between tools.

Performing the more advanced method may still place the temperature slightly below the desired point, or slightly above. With the hammer and polish wheel, passive cooling can be accounted for in a way where the temperature can be brought slightly higher than the required range, and allowed to trickle down onto the very high end of the range just as the player arrives to the machine. This requires finesse, as the precise temperature cannot be easily controlled and neither can be the passive cooling. It can therefore be preferable to end temperature adjustment slightly inside the grinder/polish wheel range, as otherwise the player may have to wait for the sword to cool for too long.

The natural cooling of the sword is not constant, it oscillates in general and is not reliable. When edging the temperature while working a machine, particularly the trip hammer, keep a very close eye on the white outline around the temperature range. If it disappeares, try to disengage immediately.

Passive cooling is especially tricky, but also potentially helpful, during grinding. Since the grinder is the only machine that heats up the sword instead of cooling it, it is preferable to adjust temperature to the low end of the range, which makes it far easier to fall out of range sometime between the player leaving the waterfall/lava lake and beginning grinding, and the uncertain cooling rate may become treacherous. On the other hand, the passive cool slightly pulls the temperature back while it is being brought up by the grinder, making it possible to complete the section in one action on a 6-section sword with the narrowest of margins and some overlap from the previous section's progress, without a "sweet spot" event (the quick-time event which awards a lump of progress). Most of the time, the best a player can hope for is being one stroke away from finishing grinding and so slightly above range that they may simply wait by the machine idle, with passive cooling allowing for the final stroke sooner than one would run to the waterfall and back.

Progress management[edit | edit source]

If doing a sword of 5 sections or less, it is not possible to complete a stage of progress within one round of cooling or heating except through sweet spots, and it is also exceptionally difficult on a 6-section sword without them (as mentioned above). They are unreliable, however, and without bonuses from the Smith's Uniform, will not complete the polishing wheel in one action, even on a 6-section sword. This is the main reason why it's usually a waste of time trying to push the temperature to the very edge of a range to get the most out of a single adjustment: The margins by which the section falls short of completion are far too great to be compensated by squeezing extra 1% of temperature range out of precise control. In fact, doing this while working with a tool may cost the player a sweet spot.

Keep in mind the sweet spot occurences and whether they have all passed for a given sword. It is possible that the very last strike of the tool which places the temperature out of range also triggers the coming of a sweet spot, which can now no longer be used. Unless all sweet spots have appeared, it is recommended to interrupt work one stroke before the temperature falls out of range and adjust temperature.

Players may want to consider staying off heavily populated worlds while playing in the Foundry. Occasional tick stutters may throw one off and delayed input response may cause the character to interact with a machine longer than intended, potentially resulting in damage.

Obtaining materials for recycling[edit | edit source]

Obtaining smithed weapons and armour from the Grand Exchange to be used in the Foundry may result in additional profit. However, acquiring a decent stock of such items may take a few hours and the player should note that many of the compatible items have a relatively low buy limit of 125, which may be fully spent in 2-3 hours of playing the Foundry, depending on the item.

Smithing items on one's own purely to be used in the Foundry will result in financial loss; the less bars required per item, the greater the loss, as the bar lost in each smithed item could have been used directly in the Foundry. Nevertheless, it provides the player a means to draw experience from a given volume of bars twice: Once in smithing, once in the Foundry.

The cheapest method for obtaining rune materials is to use rune platebodies.

For adamant materials, players may find that Aneirin's Armour in Prifddinas has a stock of adamant and mithril armour that could be suitable when making alloys. Platelegs and skirts provide the best value at his shop.

The claws may seem like a near-universal choice for savings, but are impractical due to extremely low stocks, taking days to purchase in some cases.

Bronze[edit | edit source]

Bronze bar.pngBronze bar price: 216

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Bronze scimitar.png Bronze scimitar 1 178 178.00 38.00 3,342 32 32.00 184.00
Bronze longsword.png Bronze longsword 1 100 100.00 116.00 722 40 40.00 176.00
Bronze full helm.png Bronze full helm 1 74 74.00 142.00 3,946 44 44.00 172.00
Bronze sq shield.png Bronze sq shield 1 95 95.00 121.00 1,496 48 48.00 168.00
Bronze claws.png Bronze claws 1 182 182.00 34.00 3 15 15.00 201.00
Bronze warhammer.png Bronze warhammer 2 93 46.50 169.50 2,875 61 30.50 185.50
Bronze battleaxe.png Bronze battleaxe 2 90 45.00 171.00 1,547 52 26.00 190.00
Bronze chainbody.png Bronze chainbody 2 101 50.50 165.50 689 60 30.00 186.00
Bronze kiteshield.png Bronze kiteshield 2 113 56.50 159.50 2,850 68 34.00 182.00
Bronze 2h sword.png Bronze 2h sword 2 451 225.50 −9.50 1,335 80 40.00 176.00
Bronze platelegs.png Bronze platelegs 2 387 193.50 22.50 2,006 80 40.00 176.00
Bronze plateskirt.png Bronze plateskirt 2 105 52.50 163.50 126 80 40.00 176.00
Bronze platebody.png Bronze platebody 4 112 28.00 188.00 3,805 160 40.00 176.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Iron[edit | edit source]

Iron bar.pngIron bar price: 230

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Iron scimitar.png Iron scimitar 1 158 158.00 72.00 5,995 112 112.00 118.00
Iron longsword.png Iron longsword 1 82 82.00 148.00 1,272 140 140.00 90.00
Iron full helm.png Iron full helm 1 135 135.00 95.00 3,445 154 154.00 76.00
Iron sq shield.png Iron sq shield 1 111 111.00 119.00 591 168 168.00 62.00
Iron claws.png Iron claws 1 78 78.00 152.00 24 50 50.00 180.00
Iron warhammer.png Iron warhammer 2 61 30.50 199.50 3,850 224 112.00 118.00
Iron battleaxe.png Iron battleaxe 2 89 44.50 185.50 1,570 182 91.00 139.00
Iron chainbody.png Iron chainbody 2 148 74.00 156.00 3,018 210 105.00 125.00
Iron kiteshield.png Iron kiteshield 2 109 54.50 175.50 4,238 N/A N/A N/A
Iron 2h sword.png Iron 2h sword 2 99 49.50 180.50 2,205 280 140.00 90.00
Iron platelegs.png Iron platelegs 2 153 76.50 153.50 3,551 280 140.00 90.00
Iron plateskirt.png Iron plateskirt 2 92 46.00 184.00 1,484 280 140.00 90.00
Iron platebody.png Iron platebody 4 106 26.50 203.50 29,430 560 140.00 90.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Steel[edit | edit source]

Steel bar.pngSteel bar price: 522

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Steel scimitar.png Steel scimitar 1 189 189.00 333.00 6,548 400 400.00 122.00
Steel longsword.png Steel longsword 1 171 171.00 351.00 2,922 500 500.00 22.00
Steel full helm.png Steel full helm 1 185 185.00 337.00 3,384 550 550.00 −28.00
Steel sq shield.png Steel sq shield 1 257 257.00 265.00 1,447 N/A N/A N/A
Steel claws.png Steel claws 1 254 254.00 268.00 602 175 175.00 347.00
Steel warhammer.png Steel warhammer 2 222 111.00 411.00 8,697 640 320.00 202.00
Steel battleaxe.png Steel battleaxe 2 228 114.00 408.00 7,200 650 325.00 197.00
Steel chainbody.png Steel chainbody 2 290 145.00 377.00 4,593 750 375.00 147.00
Steel kiteshield.png Steel kiteshield 2 293 146.50 375.50 6,351 807 403.50 118.50
Steel 2h sword.png Steel 2h sword 2 375 187.50 334.50 4,857 1,000 500.00 22.00
Steel platelegs.png Steel platelegs 2 419 209.50 312.50 5,404 1,000 500.00 22.00
Steel plateskirt.png Steel plateskirt 2 437 218.50 303.50 1,572 1,000 500.00 22.00
Steel platebody.png Steel platebody 4 917 229.25 292.75 56,906 2,000 500.00 22.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Mithril[edit | edit source]

Mithril bar.pngMithril bar price: 779

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Mithril scimitar.png Mithril scimitar 1 522 522.00 257.00 8,625 1,040 1,040.00 −261.00
Mithril longsword.png Mithril longsword 1 573 573.00 206.00 2,071 1,300 1,300.00 −521.00
Mithril full helm.png Mithril full helm 1 774 774.00 5.00 5,591 1,430 1,430.00 −651.00
Mithril sq shield.png Mithril sq shield 1 752 752.00 27.00 1,916 1,716 1,716.00 −937.00
Mithril claws.png Mithril claws 1 164 164.00 615.00 518 522 522.00 257.00
Mithril warhammer.png Mithril warhammer 2 1,008 504.00 275.00 8,511 1,660 830.00 −51.00
Mithril battleaxe.png Mithril battleaxe 2 1,128 564.00 215.00 4,227 1,690 845.00 −66.00
Mithril chainbody.png Mithril chainbody 2 1,078 539.00 240.00 10,654 1,950 975.00 −196.00
Mithril kiteshield.png Mithril kiteshield 2 1,121 560.50 218.50 12,308 2,431 1,215.50 −436.50
Mithril 2h sword.png Mithril 2h sword 2 1,218 609.00 170.00 9,226 2,600 1,300.00 −521.00
Mithril platelegs.png Mithril platelegs 2 1,324 662.00 117.00 12,910 2,600 1,300.00 −521.00
Mithril plateskirt.png Mithril plateskirt 2 1,355 677.50 101.50 2,312 2,600 1,300.00 −521.00
Mithril platebody.png Mithril platebody 4 2,765 691.25 87.75 148,784 5,200 1,300.00 −521.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Adamant[edit | edit source]

Adamantite bar.pngAdamantite bar price: 2,009

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Adamant scimitar.png Adamant scimitar 1 1,618 1,618.00 391.00 3,088 3,840 3,840.00 −1,831.00
Adamant longsword.png Adamant longsword 1 1,593 1,593.00 416.00 3,299 3,200 3,200.00 −1,191.00
Adamant full helm.png Adamant full helm 1 1,843 1,843.00 166.00 10,211 3,520 3,520.00 −1,511.00
Adamant sq shield.png Adamant sq shield 1 1,989 1,989.00 20.00 3,332 N/A N/A N/A
Adamant claws.png Adamant claws 1 1,112 1,112.00 897.00 2 N/A N/A N/A
Adamant warhammer.png Adamant warhammer 2 2,965 1,482.50 526.50 2,988 4,120 2,060.00 −51.00
Adamant battleaxe.png Adamant battleaxe 2 2,714 1,357.00 652.00 13,589 4,160 2,080.00 −71.00
Adamant chainbody.png Adamant chainbody 2 2,886 1,443.00 566.00 3,178 4,800 2,400.00 −391.00
Adamant kiteshield.png Adamant kiteshield 2 2,958 1,479.00 530.00 12,246 N/A N/A N/A
Adamant 2h sword.png Adamant 2h sword 2 3,528 1,764.00 245.00 10,200 6,400 3,200.00 −1,191.00
Adamant platelegs.png Adamant platelegs 2 3,483 1,741.50 267.50 16,931 6,400 3,200.00 −1,191.00
Adamant plateskirt.png Adamant plateskirt 2 3,902 1,951.00 58.00 775 6,400 3,200.00 −1,191.00
Adamant platebody.png Adamant platebody 4 9,500 2,375.00 −366.00 270,235 16,640 4,160.00 −2,151.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Rune[edit | edit source]

Runite bar.pngRunite bar price: 12,526

Item Recycled
bars
Grand Exchange Specialty store[n 1]
GE price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Daily
volume
Store price Price per bar Profit per bar
vs GE bars
Rune scimitar.png Rune scimitar 1 15,040 15,040.00 −2,514.00 13,409 38,400 38,400.00 −25,874.00
Rune longsword.png Rune longsword 1 18,675 18,675.00 −6,149.00 44,557 32,000 32,000.00 −19,474.00
Rune full helm.png Rune full helm 1 20,599 20,599.00 −8,073.00 62,748 35,200 35,200.00 −22,674.00
Rune sq shield.png Rune sq shield 1 22,456 22,456.00 −9,930.00 16,961 N/A N/A N/A
Rune claws.png Rune claws 1 9,657 9,657.00 2,869.00 227 N/A N/A N/A
Rune warhammer.png Rune warhammer 2 25,149 12,574.50 −48.50 33,526 N/A N/A N/A
Rune battleaxe.png Rune battleaxe 2 24,486 12,243.00 283.00 14,269 N/A N/A N/A
Rune chainbody.png Rune chainbody 2 29,492 14,746.00 −2,220.00 23,813 47,500 23,750.00 −11,224.00
Rune kiteshield.png Rune kiteshield 2 32,067 16,033.50 −3,507.50 63,153 N/A N/A N/A
Rune 2h sword.png Rune 2h sword 2 37,914 18,957.00 −6,431.00 43,804 N/A N/A N/A
Rune platelegs.png Rune platelegs 2 37,899 18,949.50 −6,423.50 46,810 60,800 30,400.00 −17,874.00
Rune plateskirt.png Rune plateskirt 2 37,958 18,979.00 −6,453.00 15,991 60,800 30,400.00 −17,874.00
Rune platebody.png Rune platebody 4 38,490 9,622.50 2,903.50 47,489 84,500 21,125.00 −8,599.00
  1. ^ Lowest price of all shops that sell.

Metal score[edit | edit source]

1 bar alloys[edit | edit source]

Bar Level Score
Bronze Smithing 15 10
Iron Smithing 15 20
Steel Smithing 30 30
Mithril Smithing 50 40
Adamant Smithing 70 50
Rune Smithing 85 60

2 bar alloys[edit | edit source]

The highest metal score for each bar combination is highlighted.

Bar 1 Bar 2 Level Number of Bar 1 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
Number of Bar 2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
Bronze Iron Smithing 15 11 12 12 13 14 15 16 16 17 18 18 19 19 20 20 20 20 20 21 21 21 21 21 20 20 20 20
Bronze Steel Smithing 30 11 13 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 24 25 25 26 27 28 28 29 29 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30 30
Bronze Mithril Smithing 50 12 14 17 19 21 23 25 26 28 29 31 32 33 35 36 36 37 38 39 39 40 40 40 40 40 40 40
Bronze Adamant Smithing 70 13 16 19 21 24 26 29 31 33 35 37 39 41 42 43 45 46 47 48 48 49 49 50 50 50 50 50
Bronze Rune Smithing 85 13 17 21 24 27 30 33 36 39 41 43 46 48 50 51 53 54 55 57 57 58 59 59 60 60 60 60
Iron Steel Smithing 30 22 24 26 28 30 32 33 35 36 37 38 38 39 40 40 40 40 40 39 39 38 37 37 35 34 33 31
Iron Mithril Smithing 50 23 26 29 32 35 37 40 42 43 45 46 48 49 50 50 51 51 51 51 50 50 49 48 46 45 43 42
Iron Adamant Smithing 70 24 28 32 36 40 43 46 48 51 53 55 57 58 60 60 61 62 62 62 61 61 60 59 57 56 54 52
Iron Rune Smithing 85 25 30 35 40 44 48 52 55 59 61 64 66 68 70 71 72 72 73 73 73 72 71 70 68 67 65 62
Steel Mithril Smithing 50 34 38 42 46 49 52 55 57 59 61 62 63 64 65 65 65 64 63 62 61 60 58 55 53 50 47 43
Steel Adamant Smithing 70 35 41 46 51 55 59 63 66 69 71 73 75 76 77 78 78 77 77 76 74 73 70 68 65 62 58 54
Steel Rune Smithing 85 37 44 50 56 61 66 71 75 78 82 84 86 88 90 90 91 91 90 89 88 86 83 81 77 74 69 65
Mithril Adamant Smithing 70 47 53 60 65 71 75 80 83 86 89 91 93 94 95 95 94 93 92 90 87 85 81 77 73 68 62 56
Mithril Rune Smithing 85 48 57 65 72 78 84 90 94 98 102 105 107 108 110 110 110 109 107 105 103 100 96 91 86 80 74 67
Adamant Rune Smithing 85 60 70 79 88 95 102 108 114 118 122 125 127 129 130 129 129 127 125 122 118 113 108 102 95 87 79 69