Hey, it's good to see someone started a write up for these guys. I think it might be better to include something like verac's skirt + karil's top as the standard setup, without a complete range armor switch switch. Also, blowpipe is unquestionably the optimal range switch. Eventually, it'd be nice to see one of the gear priority charts that you see on many of the other boss strategy guides.
184.108.40.206 15:58, May 27, 2016 (UTC)
We need to seriously discuss the optimal gear[edit source]
1. How is armadyl chestplate BIS? There is no way in hell that is true, since Armadyl top has -7 to all melee att bonuses. Yes armadyl top has better defense bonuses, but that in no way compensates way more valuable att bonus loss. 2. So if you are arguing that armadyl chestplate is BIS, than how on earth are Bandos tassets BIS? This makes completely no sense, theres why, lets compare them with veracs plateskirt:
Bandos tassets have +2 more str bonus, +9 range def bonus Veracs skirt has more: +17 crush def bonus, +3 prayer bonus (which is huge, since prayer is a big part of the whole trip), +4 magic defense that is important, because demonic gorillas are very accurate with magic.
3. How are primordial boots any good at all? They do have +2 att bonus and +2 str bonus compared to guardian boots, but guardian boots have +24 more range def bonus, which is mindblowingly huge. They also have +10 more crush def. bonus and -3 magic def. Also +2 prayer
All three changes combined, the new setup would have: +5 melee atts -2 str +16 crush defense +10 range def -4 magic def (in perfect conditions, this should never effect you, because when it is not clear which att style the gorilla is going to use, you should pray magic) +4 prayer (this saves 2-3 ppot doses per trip and also valuable time, less click intensity if using piety)
So you you should result in more DPS (+5att highly compensates -2str) More prayer +4 bonus More defense +16 crush, +10 range -4 magic gets hugely overcompensated
- The combined +4 strength bonus from tassets and prims compared to v skirt and guardian boots is actually quite notable as it gives 1-2 extra max hits (depending on infernal/fire cape, avernic/dragon defender or weapon used) in this setup at 75+ melee stats which is a lot more than the accuracy bonus from +5 melee attack bonuses. You are right about acp though, karil top or d'hide would be better since accuracy generally is more beneficial than defense. If we look at the DPS calculator, tassets and prims give a substantial increase in DPS, and while the prayer and defensive bonuses are nice, I quite doubt the slightly extended trips end up being worth the loss in damage in terms of kills or profit per hour. --laagone talk 14:38, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Addendum: acp is not a bad choice if you also bring bcp to switch, albeit being a bit more effort. --laagone talk 14:58, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
tank attacker[edit source]
The inventory setup suggests runes for boost potion share but then the inventory shows divine super combat potions and divine ranging potions even though they cant be shared.