# Talk:Money making guide/Pickpocketing elves

this method should have an error, perform this method for about 6 hours and get 600,000 coins and 80 Crystal shards but no Enhanced crystal teleport seeds in approximately 3500 effective robberies. the method is wrong or the drop rate is not 1/1024, or it has some kind of error. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vpetit25 (talk) on 19:06, July 7, 2020 (UTC).

- I don't have the confirmation that seeds are 1/1024 at hand, but it's not out of the question that you are just unlucky, when there are times of people getting the seed 3 times (with double loot) in 64 pickpockets. --laagone
^{talk}19:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

## Coins profit calculation[edit source]

I just added the level 85 profit calculation. I calculated the expected coin profit as follows: profit = (280 + 350) / 2 * <pickpockets an hour>. However when I apply this calculation to the existing expected coin profit the numbers do not match. The current calucation assumes 475 pickpockets an hour, but lists an hourly profit of 238,232. The droprate for coins is 1/1.219 which means you will get coins 779.33 (1/1.219 * 475 * 2) times in 475 pickpockets. But 238,232 / 779.33 = 305.69, while the average coin loot is 315.

Is there a reason the current calculation does not use the average of 315 coins per pickpocket?