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Rune distribution

Good news everyone! We've crowdsourced about 7 million essence crafted at ZMI to figure out most of the mechanics.

Based on the evidence we have, we think there are separate distributions defined for each ten-level band: one for 1-9, 10-19, 20-29, et cetera. Here's a graph of the estimates:

The Ardougne medium diary gives a chance of doubling runes. Ash confirms this is not a constant boost and varies from 1/4 down to about 1/10. Based on my estimates, the rates are:

• 10% for soul
• 15% for blood
• 17.5% for death
• 20% for law
• 22.5% for nature
• 25% for all others

It's possible these are actually out of 128 instead of 40 but I sorta doubt it. We'd need more data to get the exact numbers but I think these are close.

In all, this strongly points to a lot of the distributions being out of either 100 or 200, and IMO it's likely that all of them, even the low-level ones that we have very little data on, are actually out of 1000. The estimates will have to suffice for now, since they're probably good enough for XP-per-essence calculations.

Raw data is below, which I will update periodically. ʞooɔ 06:23, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

Raw data

No Diary

Air Mind Water Earth Fire Body Cosmic Chaos Astral Nature Law Death Blood Soul
0-9 293 125 49 31 11 6 7 6 0 2 1 0 0 0
10-19 557 638 631 744 395 171 58 26 16 20 7 0 0 0
20-29 1240 1343 1405 1375 1544 1613 786 433 205 104 49 35 27 4
30-39 2205 2384 2787 3354 3713 3952 6087 3116 1581 735 413 176 126 65
40-49 11485 12059 13205 14013 15146 18886 28294 37680 18490 9422 4963 2226 1417 769
50-59 21101 23073 25088 27197 29531 31583 42062 46070 62948 56583 29455 14538 7265 3462
60-69 25444 28301 31049 33834 38942 41745 53527 59197 78339 86766 44974 22367 11218 5532
70-79 17529 17444 17442 23075 23378 29192 40804 52619 69974 87415 104356 57810 29249 11655
80-89 61 55 86 112 133 157 178 190 280 322 399 347 151 104
90-99 28 33 68 81 132 166 229 252 348 446 469 574 340 189

Diary

Air Mind Water Earth Fire Body Cosmic Chaos Astral Nature Law Death Blood Soul
0-9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
10-19 10 11 13 17 10 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
20-29 190 230 241 255 283 300 167 69 43 9 8 6 1 1
30-39 1205 1440 1573 1955 2155 2293 3501 1874 836 381 249 96 53 25
40-49 16842 18206 19512 20774 22613 28008 41895 56341 28104 13827 6961 3168 2056 956
50-59 96212 105828 114318 125006 134471 143576 191918 210113 286963 251959 128456 62681 29437 13299
60-69 344465 379530 418469 458361 532996 572075 723117 799991 1067632 1158972 585599 286850 140476 66938
70-79 483624 481152 481503 641573 643022 802576 1125120 1445217 1927516 2358184 2775112 1508764 737131 282531
80-89 10317 10330 15367 20433 25473 30813 35461 40551 53911 67320 71016 69456 28258 18265
90-99 3746 3741 7287 11105 14424 18102 21752 25433 36477 48359 50922 57190 33983 21306

Est. totals

Air Mind Water Earth Fire Body Cosmic Chaos Astral Nature Law Death Blood Soul
0-9 293 125 49 31 11 6 7 6 0 2 1 0 0 0
10-19 565 647 641 758 403 173 58 27 16 20 7 0 0 0
20-29 1392 1527 1598 1579 1770 1853 920 488 239 111 56 40 28 5
30-39 3169 3536 4045 4918 5437 5786 8888 4615 2250 1046 621 258 172 88
40-49 24959 26624 28815 30632 33236 41292 61810 82753 40973 20709 10764 4922 3205 1638
50-59 98071 107735 116542 127202 137108 146444 195596 214160 292518 262264 136502 67884 32862 15552
60-69 301016 331925 365824 400523 465339 499405 632021 699190 932445 1032866 532973 266495 133371 66385
70-79 404428 402366 402644 536333 537796 671253 940900 1208793 1611987 2012463 2416949 1341864 670232 268501
80-89 8315 8319 12380 16458 20511 24807 28547 32631 43409 55277 59579 59458 24723 16709
90-99 3025 3026 5898 8965 11671 14648 17631 20598 29530 39923 42904 49246 29890 19558

Est. percentages

Air Mind Water Earth Fire Body Cosmic Chaos Astral Nature Law Death Blood Soul sample_size
0-9 55.2% 23.5% 9.2% 5.8% 2.1% 1.1% 1.3% 1.1% 0.0% 0.4% 0.2% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 531
10-19 17.0% 19.5% 19.3% 22.9% 12.2% 5.2% 1.7% 0.8% 0.5% 0.6% 0.2% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 3315
20-29 12.0% 13.2% 13.8% 13.6% 15.3% 16.0% 7.9% 4.2% 2.1% 1.0% 0.5% 0.3% 0.2% 0.0% 11606
30-39 7.1% 7.9% 9.0% 11.0% 12.1% 12.9% 19.8% 10.3% 5.0% 2.3% 1.4% 0.6% 0.4% 0.2% 44829
40-49 6.1% 6.5% 7.0% 7.4% 8.1% 10.0% 15.0% 20.1% 9.9% 5.0% 2.6% 1.2% 0.8% 0.4% 412332
50-59 5.0% 5.5% 6.0% 6.5% 7.0% 7.5% 10.0% 11.0% 15.0% 13.4% 7.0% 3.5% 1.7% 0.8% 1950440
60-69 4.5% 5.0% 5.5% 6.0% 7.0% 7.5% 9.5% 10.5% 14.0% 15.5% 8.0% 4.0% 2.0% 1.0% 6659776
70-79 3.0% 3.0% 3.0% 4.0% 4.0% 5.0% 7.0% 9.0% 12.0% 15.0% 18.0% 10.0% 5.0% 2.0% 13426510
80-89 2.0% 2.0% 3.0% 4.0% 5.0% 6.0% 6.9% 7.9% 10.6% 13.4% 14.5% 14.5% 6.0% 4.1% 411123
90-99 1.0% 1.0% 2.0% 3.0% 3.9% 4.9% 5.9% 6.9% 10.0% 13.5% 14.5% 16.6% 10.1% 6.6% 296512

Is it possible to also add gp/ess from this table? 188.206.72.216 09:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC)14-7-20

XP/ess math seems wrong

EDIT: the math is right, turns out nikkun was wrong

I'm using these values for base XP/ess:

Base XP
Rune
Air

Mind

Water

Earth

Fire

Body

Cosmic

Chaos

Astral

Nature

Law

Death

Blood

Soul
Base XP 5 5.5 6 6.5 7 7.5 8 8.5 8.7 9 9.5 10 10.5 11

When I add up ${\displaystyle 1.7\times {\mathit {Rate}}\times {\mathit {BaseXP}}}$, I get a slightly higher XP/ess for each level band:

Distribution estimates
Level
Air

Mind

Water

Earth

Fire

Body

Cosmic

Chaos

Astral

Nature

Law

Death

Blood

Soul
XP/ess Profit/ess
0-9 50% 25% 12% 6% 3% 1.5% 0.85% 0.6% 0.45% 0.3% 0.15% 0.08% 0.05% 0.02% 9.39 5.67
10-19 15% 18% 21% 24% 12% 6% 1.75% 0.8% 0.6% 0.4% 0.24% 0.12% 0.06% 0.03% 10.52 7.72
20-29 12% 13% 13.5% 14% 15% 16% 8% 4.2% 2.1% 1.1% 0.55% 0.32% 0.15% 0.08% 11.34 21.71
30-39 7% 8% 9% 11% 12% 13% 20% 10% 5% 2.5% 1.3% 0.6% 0.4% 0.2% 12.27 48.51
40-49 6% 6.5% 7% 7.5% 8% 10% 15% 20% 10% 5% 2.6% 1.2% 0.8% 0.4% 12.90 64.55
50-59 5% 5.5% 6% 6.5% 7% 7.5% 10% 11% 15% 13.5% 7% 3.5% 1.7% 0.8% 13.47 92.95
60-69 4.5% 5% 5.5% 6% 7% 7.5% 9.5% 10.5% 14% 15.5% 8% 4% 2% 1% 13.63 98.14
70-79 3% 3% 3% 4% 4% 5% 7% 9% 12% 15% 18% 10% 5% 2% 14.59 127.09
80-89 2% 2% 3% 4% 5% 6% 7% 8% 10.5% 13.5% 14.5% 14.5% 6% 4% 14.82 132.96
90-98 1% 1% 2% 3% 4% 5% 6% 7% 10% 13.5% 14.5% 16.5% 10% 6.5% 15.35 153.8
99 1% 1% 2% 3% 3% 4% 5% 6% 9.5% 13.5% 14.5% 15.5% 13% 9% 15.58 164.69

Am I missing something here, or does the main distribution table have the wrong XP/ess?

Nikkun (talk) 22:29, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Base XP for blood and soul is 10.5 and 11.0 respectively. ʞooɔ 22:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Oh! Updated. Thant looks closer. But even using those values I still get slightly higher XP/ess. Could another of my assumptions be wrong here? Nikkun (talk) 23:09, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Make sure you're flooring the XP per rune to the tenths place - for example, astral runes are 14.7, not 14.79. ʞooɔ 23:15, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
That was it. Thanks! Nikkun (talk) 23:48, 24 October 2020 (UTC)