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Group Picture[edit source]

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Hey there! On Saturday, May 11th 2019, several Old School RuneScape Wiki admins and editors will gather at World 330 Clan Wars arena at 22:00 UTC (2 hours before reset, 6PM EST) to take a group photo to use as a banner on the official Twitter account.


Bring your best FashionScape! If you plan to attend, let me know on my talk page. See you there!

--dDbvitC.png Scuzzy Beta hib8CAd.png 02:40, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Smelly[edit source]

Just like that bird. Jakesterwars (talk) 04:09, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

poopoo test  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gherkins (talk) on 06:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC).

You didn't specify where you wanted me to yeet it[edit source]

-dDbvitC.png Scuzzy Beta hib8CAd.png 03:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
LMAO Crow653 (talk) 03:39, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

testGherkins (talk) 06:08, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Vote in the Weird Gloop elections![edit source]

Hi Crow653!

Because of your involvement with the wiki, you are eligible to vote on the candidates for the board of Weird Gloop, the company that hosts the RuneScape and Old School RuneScape wikis.

See meta:Weird Gloop elections for general information about this process (and how to vote – it'll take maybe 5 minutes), and meta:Weird Gloop elections/2019/Candidates for candidate presentations.

There are 4 candidates for OSRSW and 4 candidates for RSW, and 1 candidate for pt-RSW. If you'd like to influence who represents the voices of these communities inside the company, I strongly encourage you to vote! You are one of only 204 people that meet the requirements, and this is your opportunity to help shape the future of the wikis.

Thanks! ʞooɔ 01:00, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Level up tables[edit source]

Hey, stop making abominations please. Thanks,

Jakesterwars (talk) 22:40, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but they must be finished. Viva la resolución zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  22:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Les jambes[edit source]

5855452206457159941.png Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 20:38, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

PING PING[edit source]

6751017185513308491.gif Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 01:17, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

ALERT[edit source]

Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 01:40, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Regarding the Volcanic Mine[edit source]

IIRC the activity was dangrous upon release, but was since changed in an update to get an Item Retrieval Service. I changed the template to "Instance" since this is the template that I'm using for anything that has an Item Retrieval Service. Now whether this means that deaths will result in loss of HCIM status, I have no idea. All other types of accounts should be fine however. If you can shed some light on this, please do. --The scribe Eek, a goblin! 19:11, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

It wasn't ever made into a safe death, an activity having an item retrieval service doesn't have much to do with an activity being dangerous or not (afaik all activities with IRS's besides Chambers of Xeric are dangerous deaths). The main differences between a safe and dangerous death are hcim losing status, uim losing their instance banked items, and regular accounts and normal ironmen losing(dropping) their unprotected items that they're holding (regardless of if there's an IRS). The Instance template doesn't seem to convey whether the activity is dangerous, just if it's an instance. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  19:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

bird brain[edit source]

u r a huge noob - 2601:405:4400:94DE:288F:D90F:F2C8:5A05 18:30, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Support - Mr  Dew 18:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Dragon and Rune defender values[edit source]

I'm curious about the values given to the dragon and rune defenders, do you know of a source for 65,004 coins and 68,007 coins values? RuggedMuffin (talk) 22:36, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, all item values are in the games cache. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  22:49, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Your Behaviour[edit source]

Hello Crow. I, and the community at large, would appreciate if you would not jinx users. This caused me to have to restart my laptop and make the wiki look ugly with redlinks in the interim. Thank you. 6130935709241180451.png Legaia2Pla · ʟ · 01:09, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

😡[edit source]

Mr  Dew 11:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Varrock armour 1[edit source]

Thanks for correctly reverting my edit, I didn't first read the page history which proves it mines double up to gold. It would appear the armour does not double sandstone (level 35) though so that might be worth mentioning, I'll leave it with you. Cheers. Wardfish1150 (talk)

I dunno if I have to be registered to post here but[edit source]

Is there any way to sort a table by diary tier? Currently it just sorts it alphabetically which obviously yields Easy, Elite, Hard, Medium in that order (when sorting descending) which is not ideal. 82.34.228.101 20:25, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Do you want a free wiki t-shirt?[edit source]

Hi Crow653!

To celebrate the two-year anniversary of the new site, we're giving away RuneScape Wiki t-shirts to a bunch of wiki editors. Because of your contributions to the community over the last year, we'd like to send you one! If you're interested, go fill out this form, and we'll get those shipped out before the end of the month.

If you have any questions, shoot me a talk page message or a DM on Discord (Cook#2222). Thanks!

ʞooɔ 21:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

"Please do not revert edits for no reason."[edit source]

Special:Diff/13978114: It was well explained in Special:Diff/13978091 parentheses. Too many duplicate wikilinks, and addition of brings you is incorrect tone for an encyclopedia. 84.250.17.211 00:36, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Your edit summary did not explain your edit whatsoever, using vague terms with no explanation such as "accessibility" to justify removal of wikilinks which help provide easier accessibility is not okay. "You" is absolutely fine tone to use on guides as you have been repeatedly told and isn't un-encyclopaedic in the first place. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  01:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Addressing "you" and tone, those pages are in main namespace thus I may treat them as encyclopedia articles (per Main Page: We are the official Old School RuneScape encyclopaedia). Nonetheless, you is an instructional tone addressing the reader directly and not a formal encyclopedic tone. I fail to quickly understand from reading quest articles what the quest is about, what was going around in the game at the time of introduction et cetera, with this non-sense instructional tone seperate from "quick guide" pages where that instructional tone belongs. (Those quick guides also do not belong to an encyclopedia, unless this wiki was to also advertise itself as a strategy guide; two conflicting goals.) It can be difficult in these situations to distinct what is an encyclopedic article and what is a guide, with no seperation.

I am familiar with blind / assistive navigation of web pages with text-to-speech. Links and sections are major navigation elements. An article should have enough links to assist a visual reader, but not too many to disrupt a non-visual reader. Irrelevant links (for example, a link target to Wilderness when there was already a link target to Lava Maze) also do not aid the reader significantly to navigate.

84.250.17.211 01:51, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
You seem to be conflating the fact that Wikipedia states they themselves are not to have guides with the falsehood that encyclopeadias do not have guides, Wikipedia is a specific encyclopaedia, other encyclopaedias may have guides within them, as even Wikipedia's own definitions on their page on encyclopeadias says, even if their editors use the term in a different way. Regardless, we are not Wikipedia, and we do not blindly follow their guidelines which obviously do not fit with our Wiki. If you continue to attempt to force that falsehood into your worldview of what an encyclopaedia is "supposed to be", you will not enjoy editing here.
Your example of irrelevant links does not seem relevant due to those being 2 differing articles. Regardless, it is clearly the only link to Wilderness on the page, I fail to see how it is irrelevant. I can agree with duplicate links being removed if they are literally right next to each other in prose, but duplicating links across sections and in tables is not a bad thing at all, hence I will be restoring some of the links you erroneously removed. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  03:18, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm having a blast.

The common goal in that example of Lava Maze is the expectation for a reader to want to learn about Lava Maze, which happens to be located in the Wilderness. Via the article to Lava Maze, a further interested reader may find a link in that article to Wilderness to learn more about the wider area of Wilderness in general. As another example, it'd be awkward to have links like [[New York]]'s [[New York City]] in an article that talks about an event which happened in New York City. But I'd be okay with [[Lava Maze|Wilderness Lava Maze]] (or in the previous example just [[New York City]] but probably not New York State's [[New York City]]).

I do not believe those links to have been removed erroneously. Quite the opposite, I believe some of your reverts have discriminated some readers. The links appear in the same section (under that heading, to be specific) once at the top and are easy to locate from there, and not confusing or a burden for a keyboard navigator. I don't know how much experience you have with assistive technologies, but I encourage you to read out loud the example (transcribed):

Items Needed: link: Bert's rota, link: Sandy's rota, link: white berries, link: redberries, link: lantern lens, link: sand (pickpocketed from link: Sandy), 2 empty link: vials.

Take two link: vials, the link: redberries, the link: white berries, a link: lantern lens, and the link: sand pickpocketed from Sandy's pocket with you to Zavistic Rarve.

And then compare it to the following audio for listening:

Items Needed: link: Bert's rota, link: Sandy's rota, link: white berries, link: redberries, link: lantern lens, link: sand (pickpocketed from link: Sandy), 2 empty link: vials.

Take two vials, the redberries, the white berries, a lantern lens, and the sand pickpocketed from Sandy's pocket with you to Zavistic Rarve.

From the audio (assume no vision), the reader has learned once to find links from the previous paragraph should they need to revisit the links.

With link navigation, the section might be read out something like:

Heading, "Truth serum". Link list, 31 elements. link 1: Bert's rota; link 2: Sandy's rota; link 3: white berries; link 4: redberries; link 5: lantern lens; link 6: sand; link 7: Sandy; link 8: vials; [...] link 18: magical orb; link 19: vials; link 20: redberries; link 21: white berries; link 22: lantern lens; link 23: sand; [...]

Needless to say I'd prefer not to listen to link texts I've already heard and as few links as necessary (without repetition), else it wastes my (the reader's) time and focus in that section.

I purposefully did not attempt to reduce wikilinks to only occur once in an article, but once per a heading/section where it makes the most sense for a visually impaired reader to navigate. I encourage you to reconsider your edit, or prove me wrong.

84.250.17.211 06:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC); edited 06:40, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Actually, instead of proving me wrong, I should encourage you to learn more about the subject of blind and assistive web navigation. 84.250.17.211 06:49, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Ardougne master farmer[edit source]

I pickpocketed that master farmer today and it counted for the Ardy medium task despite that note and it's citation suggesting otherwise, which was cited 4 years ago on twitter. Notahashtag (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

The note, and the citation, is referring to the medium diary reward which increases your success rate when pickpocketing within Ardougne. It is not referring to the diary task. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  10:27, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Oh I see now. Thank you. Maybe it could say something like "the Ardougne Cloak 2 pickpocket bonus does not apply here"? Notahashtag (talk) 11:01, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Player character[edit source]

Why are you uploading self-insert player character designs to the "Player character" article? The default character appearance for both male and female is more appropriate here (although I've only uploaded the male default so far). The fact you requested my image be deleted gave me a laugh, by the way.

Tarlach (talk) 07:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)Tarlach

I have not uploaded any "self-insert" images, I have only undone your erroneous addition of a blurry and low quality screenshot of the default character model. It's not important for us to display the default character model and your screenshot was not uploaded appropriately, that's why I reverted your edits, and why I tagged your file for speedy deletion. zTUG5mD.png Crow 653  08:05, 10 April 2021 (UTC)